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Post by kblover on Aug 14, 2005 20:05:35 GMT
Well this argument is really getting good now, very interesting. Ding Round 3
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Post by emmarudd on Aug 15, 2005 8:56:26 GMT
Hi Joey, i am also going to get back to you on these points you have raised, i don't want to say anything i shouldn't so i'm gonna raise some of the points with Karl before replying. One thing i will quickly say though is this, Derek was barely known (as Jackie said) before Most Haunted, He actually begged for the job convincing them that he was the one, he at that point had very little money and was doing appearances in small locations (as compared to now) Derek now has a huge house in this country and Spain so he's not done to bad out of it either. Oh and also when your in a dark room, a place you dont know and your listening for noises is it not normal that your gonna jump and possibly scream when you do here something even if later it proves a natural noise, how many times have they jumped/creamed then burst out laughing because it was just that! enjoying this debate enourmously Emma xx
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Post by catzzzz on Aug 15, 2005 9:24:45 GMT
That was a good read, by far the best ive seen for a while on a Fan Based Forum, OOOOooooooo love it!
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Post by emmarudd on Aug 15, 2005 9:47:40 GMT
its good to have a proper debate this would never happen on living! Emma x
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Post by joeypesci on Aug 15, 2005 13:10:57 GMT
Hi Joey, i am also going to get back to you on these points you have raised, i don't want to say anything i shouldn't so i'm gonna raise some of the points with Karl before replying. One thing i will quickly say though is this, Derek was barely known (as Jackie said) before Most Haunted, He actually begged for the job convincing them that he was the one, he at that point had very little money and was doing appearances in small locations (as compared to now) Derek now has a huge house in this country and Spain so he's not done to bad out of it either. There is much more to Derek then people could possibly imagine, what fans see is a fantastic showman, charming , careing with a great personality, however i promise you that the real Derek is very different however i'll stop there for the moment til i check out what i am allowed to say. Oh and also when your in a dark room, a place you dont know and your listening for noises is it not normal that your gonna jump and possibly scream when you do here something even if later it proves a natural noise, how many times have they jumped/creamed then burst out laughing because it was just that! enjoying this debate enourmously Emma xx You don't need to tell me, I know Derek is a bit of an arse but still. He has helpped them also, to make all the money they have. Not one mention of him on the Antix site. But thats up to them I guess, just in my eyes it does look a bit petty. Yes, I understand your shit your pants if sitting in the dark and you hear noises. But my points is, shitting your pants and then even worse, running off. Isn't gonna make you a good investigator. And your not gonna find anything if you keep running away. As Stu said on one episode "You heard that door right. Now I'm gonna check if anyones in here. If there isn't then we are the f*** out of here". Erm? Hello? Why not stay and investigate. Thats what your there for, well in reality your suppose to only be the Rigger, but I guess being Yvette's cousin means you get the lime light to As I've said in another post. Thats my problem. All the screaming and running away. They have hired people to investigate, who shit their pants at the slightest noise. We are never gonna find anything this way. Where as on Ghost Hunters, they explain on episode 5, why you shouldn't run away. Then give a telling off to 2 of their crew members who do, infact leg it when they thought they saw something. Its not professional, doesn't make you look professional and how the hell do you expect to find anything if you keep running away all the time. If I was there, no doubt I'd shit my pants, but I'd hope I'd stay and investigate and not run. I'd try and keep in mind that 1. There has never been any evidence that ghosts have been able to hurt anyone. 2. If you can't control the situation, ie, fight the ghost back, then let it do what its gotta do. At least your get it on camera. And why oh why, if the show is suppose to be neutral, does almost everyone that goes to the Live show, seem believers. Not only this but WHY do they only EVER pick believers out of the audience. 'cause it makes for better telly thats why, as they play along. Sceptics would take a neutral view, which wouldn't be so entertaining. After all, Ciaran hardly ever feels anything, yet they hardly ever ask how he's feeling as he normally says "I feel fine". Anyway, yeah so on the Live shows, why do they always attack the sceptics. That being Louie Savva and the other Parapsycholgist who I can't remember the name of now. They both have other possiblities. Yet ALWAYS get attacked. Its as if "Play along son or we knee cap you. Being a sceptic doesn't play to well for our profits. We need as many believers and gullible people phoning and txting as we can. You 2 giving logical explanations, will open peoples eyes and stop them watching.". And Dr David Bull a sceptic. Sceptic my arse. He goes along with the believer attiude on the Live shows to, unless of course thats what his hugh pay packet involves. Not only this but in a past Live show. There is an instant where I've seen, unaired footage. In this footage it is clear that you can tell, that later on. A certain part that is mark as Live, was infact, recorded some hours earlier.
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Post by kblover on Aug 15, 2005 14:16:18 GMT
I agree with you on that point joey, they should not be screaming and running away, when they are there to investigate, it is really annoying when they run out of a room after hearing a couple of noises. Surely it would be better if they stuck it out and investigated where the noises were coming from as soon as they hear them and not hours later with different people.
Great debate this one, really enjoying it.
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Post by catzzzz on Aug 15, 2005 14:19:59 GMT
How you know they always pick believers joey? Damn it!! I knew i should of put believer.. not fence sitter
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Post by joeypesci on Aug 15, 2005 14:27:26 GMT
How you know they always pick believers joey? Damn it!! I knew i should of put believer.. not fence sitter 'cause everyone I've ever seen get picked, although I tend to avoid the money making scams that are the Live shows, are believers as they know they will go along with all the bullshit.
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Post by catzzzz on Aug 15, 2005 17:21:49 GMT
Point made, but so far all the ppl they have picked stand in front of the camera's like scared rabbits in headlights. I really wouldnt of known the difference unless one had the balls to speak up.
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